Here's the story: Boss has now decided we're going to start doing our 800-item office supply catalog in house. (!!!!AAAAHHHHHGGGGG!!!)
Before ,when we did short 24-page jobs, I just typed out all the text in word, then flowed it into Quark, putting item pictures off to the side. A lot of work, but not THAT bad.
We have an Excel database of item information for 800 items. I'm thinking there's a better way to do this than just making one big word filem, which would probably end up being too big to import anyway. Suggestions?
We have inDesign, but I'm not keen on it. Would prefer to stick to a Quark, but I would buy an indesign product if it made things easier.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
Before ,when we did short 24-page jobs, I just typed out all the text in word, then flowed it into Quark, putting item pictures off to the side. A lot of work, but not THAT bad.
We have an Excel database of item information for 800 items. I'm thinking there's a better way to do this than just making one big word filem, which would probably end up being too big to import anyway. Suggestions?
We have inDesign, but I'm not keen on it. Would prefer to stick to a Quark, but I would buy an indesign product if it made things easier.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!
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Re: Best program for catalog creation?
Wed, August 15, 2007 - 12:18 AMI feel your pain.
A major selling point for InDesign is the easy compatibility with the other Adobe CS programs. Like you can place live photoshop files into InDesign so you can turn layers on and off as well as various alpha channels and anything else that was created in the PS file from within InDesign. Same is true for Illustrator files.
There are plenty of other selling points as well but this one is a compelling point.
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Re: Best program for catalog creation?
Fri, August 17, 2007 - 7:49 PMI prefer InDesign for creating large page layout documents, like 80page brochures and such. I worked with Quark for years and years and consistently felt it was the spawn of a hell dimension. I find InDesign to be a better interface and tool overall. and as Silent Knight said, it's super sweet in terms of integration with other adobe programs.
As far as importing 800 items of documentation, you may want to hunt around on the web or on the Adobe InDesign forums. I imagine you're not the first person to try to manage such a large quantity of info and there are probably some tricks out there. offhand I'd recommend breaking up the catalog into sections. not only is it tedious and maddenng to go through that many pages in an electronic file, but it also will make your system crawl. plus, if the file becomes problematic or corrupt, you've lost everything. whereas if it's split into sections, you've only lost part of the work.
just another thought... perhaps this is a good time to convince your boss to move online? an online catalog can be cheaper and easier to maintain in some situations.
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Re: Best program for catalog creation?
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 5:10 PMWell I've done less than a dozen book-type projects (mostly InDesign, 1 Quark, and 2 PageMaker) so I'm not too advanced in booklet creation but here's my 2ยข:
~ Regardless of the number of items, I'd just make one text file and flow it into enough linked text boxes to display everything once you add styles and images. InDesign and Quark should have no problem on that front. If it starts bogging your computer down, I'd break it up into chapters/categories to keep the file sizes down. For one temp gig, I flowed a 60-page Word doc into InDesign and it was fine.
~ While I've made the transition to InDesign and will stay here for the foreseeable future, I'd stick with what you know for a large project. Learning while doing can generate some major errors!
~ The one snag with a large book/catalog is making the leap from reader spreads to print spreads, which depends on how you are going to have the catalogs printed. Sadly, that is one feature from PageMaker that didn't make it into InDesign! In fact, when doing some work on the Girls of Spikes calendar for Burning Man printed, the print shop did all of the imposition for us!
Good luck!
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Re: Best program for catalog creation?
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 5:40 PMIf you learn InDesign and see how graceful it is you will realize it is 1000 times better than Quark.
I used Quark for years, now I wish InDesign was around 14 years ago and that Quark never existed.
InDesign is intuitive and graceful.
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Re: Best program for catalog creation?
Sun, December 16, 2007 - 5:46 PMIf you do decide to get into InDesign a couple of things to bring you up to speed fast:
movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp
movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp
movielibrary.lynda.com/html/modPage.asp
And for books:
www.amazon.com/InDesign-C.../ref=sr_1_5
www.amazon.com/InDesign-M...pd_bbs_sr_2
All Excellent!!!
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Re: Best program for catalog creation?
Thu, December 20, 2007 - 11:47 AMI know InDesign can import xml files, and you can export xml from excel...
so -- you would think you could somehow create templates which populate image & text frames with corresponding xml data.
not that I know how to do this, but it seems as though it would be possible to do this... -
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Re: Best program for catalog creation?
Thu, December 20, 2007 - 1:37 PMI work on circulars for a large retailer and this is what we do. However, you'll need someone with a little programing experience up front to get things going. It's also very important to set up the Excel spreadsheet correctly so that the cells get propagated with the proper data. Our templates include stylesheets that automatically format the imported data.
Since we use the templates over and over again, the upfront programing and setup time was well worth the effort. If you're going to do only one catalogue, it may not be worth your time, depending upon how large the catalogue is. If you're going to produce catalogues on an on-going basis, I would definitely recommend setting up a database or spreadsheet and then importing the data.
I too currently use InDesign after years using Quark. I know all this is possible with InDesign, but having only used Quark mimimally the past few years, I'm not sure what it's capabilities are and whether the above scenario is possible. Although, I do think it likely as Quarks been around for years in a variety of publishing environments. Quark also has a ton of third-party extensions and one may facilitate what you're trying to do. You'll need to do some research. Start with Quarks website.
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